Ефірне телебачення та радіомовлення в Україні

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Назва: Digital switchover or analog switch-off in Ukraine
Відправлено: admin від Червень 10, 2015, 17:35:29
In this topic I will make updates for our foreign friends about digital switchover or analog switch-off in Ukraine. Please don't ask this information in other topics. Thank you.

Last news are: start of partial analog switch-off will be 17 March 2016 end of analog switch-off will be in 2017. After 17 March 2016 will be switch-off of those analog ukrainian TV channels that are causing problems to some digital TV channels outside Ukraine.
Назва: Re: Digital switchover or analog switch-off in Ukraine
Відправлено: DVB-T(2) від Вересень 19, 2017, 16:28:13
What is with your switch-off of analog TV in your country(especially Lviv region) ?
Назва: Re: Digital switchover or analog switch-off in Ukraine
Відправлено: BanderaTV від Вересень 19, 2017, 16:43:08
To be honest, so to speak, the switch-off of analogue television is constantly postponed because of such monopolists in analog TV as: 1+1 and Inter. Those who constantly complain that grandmothers will live without our soap opera and the Opoziciyniy Blok, which constantly pervades power.
We have what we have.
Назва: Re: Digital switchover or analog switch-off in Ukraine
Відправлено: DVB-T(2) від Вересень 19, 2017, 19:15:36
So on when do you have next switch-off date fixed ?  If you have this fixed.
Назва: Re: Digital switchover or analog switch-off in Ukraine
Відправлено: Qolo від Вересень 19, 2017, 19:18:50
Цитата: DVB-T(2) від Вересень 19, 2017, 19:15:36
So on when do you have next switch-off date fixed ?  If you have this fixed.
http://en.mediasat.info/2017/08/21/ukraine-will-transit-from-analog-to-digital-television-on-30-march-2018/
Назва: Re: Digital switchover or analog switch-off in Ukraine
Відправлено: admin від Вересень 19, 2017, 19:47:15
Цитата: DVB-T(2) від Вересень 19, 2017, 19:15:36
So on when do you have next switch-off date fixed ?  If you have this fixed.
it's always moving forward
Назва: Re: Digital switchover or analog switch-off in Ukraine
Відправлено: DVB-T(2) від Вересень 22, 2017, 14:42:01
Thank you. I hope that it is deadline :) But it will be in the whole country in the same time or in some part's of country faster?
Назва: Re: Digital switchover or analog switch-off in Ukraine
Відправлено: admin від Вересень 22, 2017, 19:35:53
In my opinion, at same point, in some part's of country it will  be earlier, but it's really difficult to give you some deadline.
Назва: Re: Digital switchover or analog switch-off in Ukraine
Відправлено: admin від Січень 18, 2018, 14:58:10
New deadlines
https://www.nrada.gov.ua/natsionalna-rada-zatverdyla-proekt-planu-poetapnogo-vymknennya-analogovogo-teleradiomovlennya/
03/2018-06/2019
Назва: Re: Digital switchover or analog switch-off in Ukraine
Відправлено: ass1995 від Січень 18, 2018, 16:08:53
Few days ago I've seen the add about analog switch-off. The deadline in that add was 30.03.2018.
Назва: Re: Digital switchover or analog switch-off in Ukraine
Відправлено: pavlo_r від Січень 18, 2018, 17:07:44
As we see, according to preliminary plan analog TV will be turn off in few steps with some experimental region at first step. But even then ukrainian public TV will continue analog transmission on entire country at first and second steps
Назва: Re: Digital switchover or analog switch-off in Ukraine
Відправлено: Sadkovskiy від Січень 18, 2018, 19:26:32
That shut down already faster, all the same there is nothing to watch there
Назва: Re: Digital switchover or analog switch-off in Ukraine
Відправлено: admin від Серпень 02, 2018, 11:17:35
Unbelievable. We did it. 01/08/2018 First stage is completed: everything is OFF in Kyiv and Kyrovohrad region except UA:First channel, kyrovohrad's local region channel TK, and a couple of local channels in Kyiv and Kropyvnyzkyj that doesn't have a digital license.
Next stage is 01/09/2018 and the same logic will be applied in remaining part of country except military zone in east part and Crimea's border.
Назва: Re: Digital switchover or analog switch-off in Ukraine
Відправлено: DVB-T(2) від Лютий 20, 2019, 18:47:47
Is this data current: https://ukrtvr.org/city/330 and https://ukrtvr.org/city/326  ?

It means that the analogue television is not broadcast from transmitter in Підбуж/гора Магура, and the analogue television is transmitted from the transmitter in Львів/Високий замок 9, that is only: two channels, on the channel frequency: 12 and 57 (Are there more of these channels?) ?

If yes, will you inform on the forum in this thread: https://forum.ukrtvr.org/index.php?topic=50691.0 when the analogue television will be switched off from the transmitter Львів/Високий замок 9 ?
Назва: Re: Digital switchover or analog switch-off in Ukraine
Відправлено: admin від Лютий 20, 2019, 18:54:30
Yeap, those pages are updated.
Підбуж/гора Магура all analogue TXs are OFF.
Lviv has only 12 and 57 channels ON (and they are not 24/24) because they don't have a digital license right now. Those channel will be switched off as soon as they will have a digital license (that means +1 MUX in Lviv) ow on 1-st of May 2019.
Назва: Re: Digital switchover or analog switch-off in Ukraine
Відправлено: DVB-T(2) від Лютий 21, 2019, 12:24:37
Is it certain that on May 1, 2019, these channels will receive a digital license ?

As I can see in the list in the link, which in the previous post I served, this channel: UA:Львів, in addition to broadcasting on channel 12 on analog television, also broadcasts on MX-5 in digital terrestrial television from Lviv. So this channel has a license for digital broadcasting ? If yes, why is it broadcast on analog television ? Waiting for the second channel(НТА), because then will they be taken from analogue television at the same time ?

"[...] (that means +1 MUX in Lviv) [...]"
What does it mean ? You mean that one channel will be added to one of the MX(multiplex) in terrestrial digital television: НТА, currently broadcasting on analog television from Lviv ? If yes, on which multiplex will this channel be added ? Is it known already ?
Назва: Re: Digital switchover or analog switch-off in Ukraine
Відправлено: admin від Лютий 21, 2019, 12:42:20
Цитата: DVB-T(2) від Лютий 21, 2019, 12:24:37
Is it certain that on May 1, 2019, these channels will receive a digital license ?
No, imho they will be just switched off without new digital license.

Цитата: DVB-T(2) від Лютий 21, 2019, 12:24:37
As I can see in the list in the link, which in the previous post I served, this channel: UA:Львів, in addition to broadcasting on channel 12 on analog television, also broadcasts on MX-5 in digital terrestrial television from Lviv. So this channel has a license for digital broadcasting ? If yes, why is it broadcast on analog television ? Waiting for the second channel(НТА), because then will they be taken from analogue television at the same time ?
UA:Львів, in it's analogue license has some hours dedicated to re-transmission of "ZIK" TV channel, that's why 12 channel only working during this re-transmission hours (мовлення є лише під час ретрансляції програм телеканалу "ZIK", решту часу мовлення немає) . In this case we are talking about  ТзОВ ,,Міст ТБ" as "owner" of those license's re-transmission hours, that is different from ТОВ «ТРК «НОВІ КОМУНІКАЦІЇ» that's owner of digital license in MX-5. Bureaucracy . There are no relation between 12 and 57 channels.

Цитата: DVB-T(2) від Лютий 21, 2019, 12:24:37
"[...] (that means +1 MUX in Lviv) [...]"
What does it mean ? You mean that one channel will be added to one of the MX(multiplex) in terrestrial digital television: НТА, currently broadcasting on analog television from Lviv ? If yes, on which multiplex will this channel be added ? Is it known already ?
I mean exactly the opposite. It must be provided new MX in Lviv and at least one of those channels must be accommodated in this new MX. Another channel can be accommodated in MX-5 as there is 1 free place.
But I'm not sure if those channels are really interested to move to T2 and they asked for "accommodation".
Назва: Re: Digital switchover or analog switch-off in Ukraine
Відправлено: DVB-T(2) від Лютий 21, 2019, 14:34:57
I don't understand why MUST create a new MX from Lviv broadcasting especially for one channel(for one of those currently broadcast analog television from Lviv mosy likely[?]) ? But ok, less with that.

1. When is it planned to completely switch off analogue television in the Lviv region ?
2. What about the increase in antenna height suspensions for MX1, MX2, MX3, MX5 on a transmitter in Lviv for which, as far as I know, permits are already issued ?
Most likely it will happen after the broadcasting of this analog television transmitter will be switched off ? Will you inform us here on the forum when this happens ?

3. Do you know what is going on in this case with this transmitter: Добромиль, вежа РТС, because if I remember correctly, the National Council of Ukraine for television and radio has directed the application (inquiry) to the State Committee of Television and Radio Broadcasting of Ukraine, or the Dobromil TV tower can be used for broadcasting DVB-T2 ?
You will also be able to keep up to date this case on the forum here ?
Назва: Re: Digital switchover or analog switch-off in Ukraine
Відправлено: admin від Лютий 21, 2019, 14:51:41
Max 8 channels for MX in ukrainian T2. Another bureaucracy issue.

1. 01/05/2019
2. As soon as Zeonbud|KRRT will do it.
3. Right now, there are no any feasible plans for Добромиль.

For sure I will post updates on city pages, but I can forget to update here.
Назва: Re: Digital switchover or analog switch-off in Ukraine
Відправлено: DVB-T(2) від Лютий 21, 2019, 15:13:43
Can you provide information on Ukraine's plans to leave the so-called ,,700 MHz band" (694 MHz - 790 MHz) by, inter alia, digital terrestrial television (perhaps for example for 5G network in the future) ?

I'm most interested, for example, in whether you already have a plan of digital terrestrial television transmitters and what target frequencies will each of the transmitting MXs pass after leaving the so-called ,,700 MHz band" ?

Can you create a new thread in this section of this forum about this matter in English ? I think it would really be a good solution looking to the future.
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Channels: 112-Україна(in MX-5) and Прямий(in MX-2) are broadcast in HD resolution? If yes, in 1920 x 1080 or 1280 x 720 resolution ? Are any channels broadcast in HD resolution in terrestrial digital television in Ukraine?

,,[...] For sure I will post updates on city pages [...]"
You mean these pages: https://ukrtvr.org/city/330 and https://ukrtvr.org/city/326, for example?
Назва: Re: Digital switchover or analog switch-off in Ukraine
Відправлено: admin від Лютий 21, 2019, 15:28:36
Цитата: DVB-T(2) від Лютий 21, 2019, 15:13:43
Can you provide information on Ukraine's plans to leave the so-called ,,700 MHz band" (694 MHz - 790 MHz) by, inter alia, digital terrestrial television (perhaps for example for 5G network in the future) ?

I'm most interested, for example, in whether you already have a plan of digital terrestrial television transmitters and what target frequencies will each of the transmitting MXs pass after leaving the so-called ,,700 MHz band" ?

Can you create a new thread in this section of this forum about this matter in English ? I think it would really be a good solution looking to the future.
I don't have a lot of free time those days, maybe someone else.

Цитата: DVB-T(2) від Лютий 21, 2019, 15:13:43
Channel: 112-Україна(in MX-5) and  Прямий(in MX-2) are broadcast in HD resolution?
If yes, in 1920 x 1080 or 1280 x 720 resolution ?
Yes, 720p

Цитата: DVB-T(2) від Лютий 21, 2019, 15:13:43
,,[...] For sure I will post updates on city pages [...]"
You mean these pages: https://ukrtvr.org/city/330 and https://ukrtvr.org/city/326, for example?
Yes, also in mhs section https://ukrtvr.org/mhs and channels pages. You can also monitor region page https://ukrtvr.org/fullregions/13
Назва: Re: Digital switchover or analog switch-off in Ukraine
Відправлено: DVB-T(2) від Лютий 21, 2019, 21:42:47
When is it planned to completely switch off analogue television in the Volyn region(Волинська область) ?
Назва: Re: Digital switchover or analog switch-off in Ukraine
Відправлено: admin від Лютий 21, 2019, 21:49:50
1/05/2019 as everywhere.
But I guess this date will move forward for transmitters near to Russian border, Crimea region border and not controlled zones in Donezk and Lugansk regions.
Назва: Re: Digital switchover or analog switch-off in Ukraine
Відправлено: corazon від Травень 21, 2020, 23:12:14
The date moves forward continuously (already 3 times after the last post), and as for now it is 31 December 2020.
And after such big amount of movings forward - I have doubt 31 December 2020 is a final date...